tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8783969302315257415.post6760928332335854017..comments2024-03-16T01:00:19.876-05:00Comments on The Mad Monarchist: MM Mini View: Kings of England (Part VI)MadMonarchisthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08083008336883267870noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8783969302315257415.post-3198589371126476032016-06-21T20:51:01.085-05:002016-06-21T20:51:01.085-05:00I know I'm super late with this, but do you di...I know I'm super late with this, but do you dislike Henry VII for overthrowing Richard III? I do.Kirsten Mullerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10006935030748852386noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8783969302315257415.post-34800292035266178002013-05-08T18:58:22.739-05:002013-05-08T18:58:22.739-05:00First, I want to apologize for my phone & typi...First, I want to apologize for my phone & typing too fast on it.<br /><br />"Pounded" was supposed to be "hounded", as was "how did". And my comma's are coming over as "kama" or "karma".<br /><br />I do agree that Queen Elizabeth killed & persecuted more Catholics. Queen Mary should've realized after her subjects refused to convert back that she was only making it worse by digging in her heels & having big public bonfires & trials. That doesn't excuse Queen Elizabeth at all. <br /><br />I do, however, firmly agree that Mary should've never been Queen in her own right. She did not have the stamina and she was too obsessed with Prince Phillip. She would've made a great Queen Consort.<br /><br />And you are correct on King Henry VII. He was PERCEIVED as a cold man to many others. Possibly related to his overbearing mother & his precarious childhood. Which is probably why he still is not considered a popular king in England today, when he should be, considering all that he accomplished (& his son wasted away). Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8783969302315257415.post-69466747696920605622013-05-04T18:40:11.028-05:002013-05-04T18:40:11.028-05:00And Mary was not "pounded" about turning...And Mary was not "pounded" about turning to Protestantism? I could list the years and years of ill-treatment and threats of death she received -if I thought it would do any good. And it is not that Elizabeth I was simply "nonchalant about religion" it was that she seemed nonchalant about it and yet had people beheaded or crushed to death for it at the same time. As for King Philip, it sounds like you have the obsession with him, I never even mentioned him but the historical record is clear that he was no villain in England and urged Queen Mary to be more merciful and tolerant.<br /><br />As for Henry VII, I obviously was not speaking about his marriage but overall he was a man ruled by his wits and not his emotions. He had a 10-year-old boy put in the Tower and when you see how he treated Catherine of Aragon, he was obviously a man who could be quite cold.MadMonarchisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08083008336883267870noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8783969302315257415.post-70587415835743858702013-05-04T11:56:37.771-05:002013-05-04T11:56:37.771-05:00Remember that QE life was basically one and ruined...Remember that QE life was basically one and ruined by religious persecution. the only mother she ever really knew (Katherine Parr), is almost killed because of it kama her step sister when she was close with her when she was younger saw her mother persecuted and how did to death over it, Mary pounded her about turning to Catholicism she imprisoned her. He had to change her religion in order to survive. no wonder she was nonchalant about religion.<br /><br />Queen Mary's biggest problem - other than your obsession with King Philip - was the loss of Calais . Mary was ill equipped to be queen she should have been a great mother and helpmate, but her father denied her that opportunity.<br /><br />Henry VII couldn't have been that much of a cold fish, unless is gorgeous wife was. Because they were very very close. and he never cheated on her, rare in that day and age.Hutchloverhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16112424578173220451noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8783969302315257415.post-9089069297237055932013-05-03T10:12:21.866-05:002013-05-03T10:12:21.866-05:00As a graduate student, I'm pleased to say that...As a graduate student, I'm pleased to say that I listened to a presentation from a fellow student last night defending Mary. I think that your point about being principled is really the crucial one. We'll never know for sure, but I suspect that Mary might have willingly gone to her own death for the Catholic cause.<br /><br />I also agree about Elizabeth. I'm a hardcare Anglophile, so I would like to love her as much as the modern-day English do, but I just can't quite bring myself. She always seems petulant (though perhaps that's just the image from the Cate Blanchett movie) and she gave the Church one too many martyred saints.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08418843647453440488noreply@blogger.com