tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8783969302315257415.post5645198593913905549..comments2024-03-16T01:00:19.876-05:00Comments on The Mad Monarchist: Story of Monarchy: SerbiaMadMonarchisthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08083008336883267870noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8783969302315257415.post-35966480218176345452014-02-02T21:48:29.849-06:002014-02-02T21:48:29.849-06:00It is a shame how the Balkans went from some of my...It is a shame how the Balkans went from some of my favorite monarchies in history to the pathetic limping republics they are now. If only Albania and Bosnia would once again read the Qur'an, and learn that God wants monarchy (24:55). The only thing that has come out of the Balkans in the past 50 years that isn't horrible is turbo-folk (which is awesome no matter how you slice it). Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00664415766811995661noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8783969302315257415.post-20041676591482074192013-06-07T01:44:26.556-05:002013-06-07T01:44:26.556-05:00Serbia is the only country in Europe where I enter...Serbia is the only country in Europe where I entertain some reasoned, as opposed to blind, hope for a restoration. Polls have repeatedly showed support for a monarchist restoration. Of course as an earlier comment noted, there is the question of purely republican politicians.John (Ad Orientem)https://www.blogger.com/profile/14329907942477160166noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8783969302315257415.post-76118016336718082752013-06-06T12:47:28.272-05:002013-06-06T12:47:28.272-05:00Very good article, but few mistakes slipped thru, ...Very good article, but few mistakes slipped thru, it is probably due to intense communistic propaganda and remaking of history.<br />1. George Petrovich Karagiorge (Turkish Kara-black and Georgios his name). Karagiorgevich is name of family that descended from him (similar to Swedish son; ich is diminutive appendix in Slavic languages) <br />2. Karagiorge rebellion was first (1804) and with support from Russia, but it crashed in 1813 when Russia had to fight Napoleon. After rebellion Karagiorge escaped to Russia. In the meanwhile Milosh Obrenovich started new rebellion in 1815. Soon he stopped military actions and started to fight the Turks diplomatically. Karagiorge came back to Serbia to continue the fight, which is when Milosh have ordered him to be killed.<br />3. Paul did not sign Yugoslavia to Tripartite pact; instead he just made a contract with Tripartite pact allowing them to transport their troops thru Yugoslav territories. Meaning Yugoslavia wouldn’t fight on Germany side, remaining neutral, while letting them troops pass on southern front (Greece). Every time Germans would also have to ask for permission to pass. <br />Sorry for bad English. My intent was to stop commies assaulting this topic based on few mistakes, so when you fix errors please remove this post. I don’t want to undermine common cause in any way. <br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01119658551430666735noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8783969302315257415.post-7273315536771856092013-06-06T09:59:35.275-05:002013-06-06T09:59:35.275-05:00Concerning the Crown Prince Alexander and the rees...Concerning the Crown Prince Alexander and the reestablishment of monarchy, most people in Serbia view the return of monarchy favorably, though some hold issue with the facts that Alexander does not speak the language of his people, nor does he understand their customs and sentiments in this turbulent time for Serbia.<br /><br />Best regards,<br /><br />A Serbian MonarchistDavid of Rasciahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06251614500053041330noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8783969302315257415.post-91894152493682931672013-06-06T09:56:01.911-05:002013-06-06T09:56:01.911-05:00The roots of the Yugoslav idea can be traced to th...The roots of the Yugoslav idea can be traced to the Illyrian movement of the 1820's and 1830's among the Croat intelligentsia, its main proponents being Ljudevit Gaj and bishop Josip Juraj Strossmayer. Bishop Strossmayer envisioned Yugoslavia as being a union of the South Slavic peoples, but centered around Catholic Zagreb, which would have been autonomous of the Imperial and Royal governments in Vienna and Budapest.<br /><br />The sentiment in Serbia towards Yugoslavism was very different, as the Obrenovich dynasty and the populace aimed at the unification of strictly Serbian lands (Bosnia-Herzegovina, Slavonia, Dalmatia) and had no interest in creating a Yugoslav state. With the ascent of the Karageorgevich and the First World War, these views changed, and there was an increasing diplomatic exchange between the Serbian Royal Government and the Yugoslav Committee in Zagreb.<br /><br />When the Kingdom of Serbs, Croats and Slovenes was proclaimed on December 1, 1918, it was seen as the fruition of these efforts. The Croats did not see it as such, having expected to gain a leading role in this new state (in line with their strain of Yugoslavism), even though they had not contributed either militarily, economically or politically to its establishment. They had a deep resentment towards the Orthodox Christian Serbs (whom they viewed as schismatics), and outbreaks of anti-Serb sentiment in Croatia under Austria-Hungary were common, culminating in the anti-Serb pogrom of 1895 in Zagreb and the High Treason Trial of 1909, which jailed 52 eminent Serbs of Austria-Hungary under false accusations.David of Rasciahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06251614500053041330noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8783969302315257415.post-5506460650998489632013-06-06T09:25:00.229-05:002013-06-06T09:25:00.229-05:00I would like to applaud you on your conclusion con...I would like to applaud you on your conclusion concerning the fall of the monarchy in Serbia. I would also like to add a couple of facts about the rest of the article. Black George Petrovich (1768-1817) and Milosh Obrenovich (1780-1860) were, respectively, leaders of the First (1804-1813) and Second (1815-1817) Serbian Uprisings. After the failure of the First Uprising and Karageorge's escape to Russia, Milosh - who had been a general in Karageorge's army - led another uprising, which ultimately gained Serbia autonomy within the Ottoman Empire and for Milosh the hereditary title of Prince. Karageorge returned at the end of the uprising, with plans of continuing the war against the Turks, which would have been most inopportune for the fledgling Serbian state. He was murdered on the order of Prince Milosh in 1817. The dynasties that descended from these two great men had two different approaches to the goal of uniting all Serbian lands: the Obrenovich took a more diplomatic stance in their dealings with neighbouring powers (Austria, Ottomans), while the Karageorgevich had a more active and confrontational approach.David of Rasciahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06251614500053041330noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8783969302315257415.post-42375906121911796792013-06-06T05:16:20.611-05:002013-06-06T05:16:20.611-05:00I have high hopes for restoration in Serbia, but I...I have high hopes for restoration in Serbia, but I fear the republican bureaucrats in charge will never allow it to happen; the situation in Albania comes to mind, with the people voting massively in favour of HM King Leka, but the government lying about the results in order to remove the threat that the King presented to their entrenched republican system. But if a concerted effort is applied upon the Serbian government to organise a fair referendum, and the remaining European monarchs (mainly the British, Dutch and Spanish) turned out to support their Serbian counterparts, there is a possibility that we may at last see the restoration of the Karađorđević dynasty to Serbia. And if that is possible, I see no reason why we cannot keep rolling back republicanism throughout Europe. But first and foremost, monarchist efforts should be poured into Serbia.<br /><br />Excellent article, as usual. Your work keeping the flame of monarchy alight is much appreciated.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com