tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8783969302315257415.post2811269055324769033..comments2024-03-16T01:00:19.876-05:00Comments on The Mad Monarchist: China - A Century of RepublicanismMadMonarchisthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08083008336883267870noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8783969302315257415.post-82461040759456646162016-06-29T03:03:28.291-05:002016-06-29T03:03:28.291-05:00I'm not fond of Yuan Shihkai due to his record...I'm not fond of Yuan Shihkai due to his record of betraying people which ended with his failure due to alienating everyone. Most monarchists saw no point in backing him when they already had a monarch and even for those who were anti-Qing, they would have preferred restoring the Ming dynasty than starting over from scratch. Of course, had he been successful, he could have claimed the Mandate of Heaven and been as "legitimate" as others before him but, by that same token, since he was not, then it is also in accord with tradition to view him as a traitor.<br /><br />The most basic idea of his grab for the throne, making China a more modern monarchy, was fine but the time to make that happen would have been with the Tongzhi Restoration, the 100 Days Reform or, though it would have been much harder, working with the last emperor. However, Yuan Shihkai himself was part of the reason the 100 Days failed and his empowerment of the republicans, only to later sell them out by trying to make himself emperor, ruined any chance of him being the one to carry that out. By the time he got himself to the top, no one trusted him in either the republican or monarchist camps.MadMonarchisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08083008336883267870noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8783969302315257415.post-79285355752173002182016-06-28T18:10:37.551-05:002016-06-28T18:10:37.551-05:00So MM, what do you think of Yuan Shikai who decare...So MM, what do you think of Yuan Shikai who decared himself Emperor of China? On one hand he did try to return Monarchy to China but on the other hand he had no historical claim to the Dragon Throne, unless he claimed to be descended from Yuan Shu but even then no one really supported Yuan Shu's Zhong Dynasty. <br /><br />I also have to admit I only stumbled among your blog a few weeks ago but the more of your stuff I read the closer I get to becoming a Monarchist so good work I guess.The Pennsylvania Monarchisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13421991176481907074noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8783969302315257415.post-68360584755924330042016-03-23T05:04:17.857-05:002016-03-23T05:04:17.857-05:00Hmm seems some Chinese have noticed the destructio...Hmm seems some Chinese have noticed the destruction of their Native Heritage as well and are trying to implicitly revive it via Confucianism(including a sense of Monarchical principle). China effectively had a sense of constitutionalism such as the Huang Ming Zu Xun of the Hongwu Emperor which these Confucians could draw upon for a reinstatement of Monarchy. It wouldn't be quite the same as the past but it would be start in the right direction. Unfortunately, the Republican governments seem determined to stamp out tradition to make their rule look like the final note of the progressive "march of history", and what few local royalists exist are likely disorganized and undisciplined. I suspect it will require a Monarchist infiltration in the makeup of the leadership first before it could be steered to a reinstatement of the Monarchy(not to mention a change in attitude). The blessings of Heaven would also be necessary for it to happen. http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/11/opinion/a-confucian-constitution-in-china.htmlMr Yorkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12096110363068860466noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8783969302315257415.post-89471730598932078562014-07-14T15:53:24.192-05:002014-07-14T15:53:24.192-05:00My wife is the daughter of a Party member that li...My wife is the daughter of a Party member that lives in old Mukden. After a month tour of China we had a big banquet in Shenyang (Mukden) before returning to the US. I mentioned one thought to one of my wife's uncles: "they should have fixed the Qing instead of what followed" and got a round of applause. The ROC was a wreck and the PRC has been a calumny. Very sad and not inevitable.Fritz Bassethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11073132025483224054noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8783969302315257415.post-23089970126342118242012-05-26T03:32:39.812-05:002012-05-26T03:32:39.812-05:00For China, I agree with you Colombian, I think a N...For China, I agree with you Colombian, I think a New Dynasty should be created, to break with the Tragedy of the Old, and one set up along Confuscian lines woudl be a wonder after the years of Maoism.ZAROVEhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17668854596329493360noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8783969302315257415.post-22315694656766330502012-05-25T13:46:29.745-05:002012-05-25T13:46:29.745-05:00There are so many people that could possibly claim...There are so many people that could possibly claim the Dragon Throne due to the thousands, and I'm sure millions, of people who have the surnames Liu, Zhao, Zhou, Yang, Li, etc.<br /><br />In my opinion, either the leader of a restoration of a Chinese monarchy movement/revolution should take the throne per the Mandate of Heaven theory, or the Kong Clan, the family of Confucius, should take the throne themselves, as they can easily represent nearly everything that is Chinese in a constitutional monarchy and even limit their power per the rulings of Confucius should any other monarchy be established.ColumbianMonarchisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12335255596842058081noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8783969302315257415.post-35456625332252694182012-05-22T19:42:47.944-05:002012-05-22T19:42:47.944-05:00Perhaps the “Bird’s Nest” Olympic stadium? Sorry f...<i>Perhaps the “Bird’s Nest” Olympic stadium? Sorry folks, the thing looks like a giant bed pan.</i><br /><br />THAT was the description I was groping for. Thank you!<br /><br /><i>The sad part is, most today think DEMOCRACY is the answer to China's problems, unaware that the official Chinese Government is officially Democratic.</i><br /><br />Communists, being liars, always describe their regimes as "democratic." That the junta in Beijing calls itself "democratic" says more about its mendacity than it does about whether democracy is feasible in China.<br /><br />I may have asked this before, but: if and when the Communist regime collapses, are there any heirs to the throne left who are on record as favoring restoration? (I don't suppose there's any way of knowing whether the average Chinese would support restoration.)Anita Moorehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11305092097247290243noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8783969302315257415.post-62385585230278824222012-05-21T13:04:02.648-05:002012-05-21T13:04:02.648-05:00To Use democracy as a means to combat communism is...To Use democracy as a means to combat communism is much like giving a man with a hangover a pint of booze.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8783969302315257415.post-4118975866423588312012-05-21T03:02:28.250-05:002012-05-21T03:02:28.250-05:00China is one of the Greatest Tragedies of Modern R...China is one of the Greatest Tragedies of Modern Republicanism, because it utterly destroyed China in a way only rivaled by the Russian Revolution.The sad part is, most today think DEMOCRACY is the answer to China's problems, unaware that the official Chinese Government is officially Democratic.ZAROVEhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17668854596329493360noreply@blogger.com