tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8783969302315257415.post2370695313087039806..comments2024-03-16T01:00:19.876-05:00Comments on The Mad Monarchist: Queen Signs Pledge for HomosexualsMadMonarchisthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08083008336883267870noreply@blogger.comBlogger19125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8783969302315257415.post-73977646138441380582013-03-14T20:39:52.711-05:002013-03-14T20:39:52.711-05:00Which is why under a Democracy, people are easier ...Which is why under a Democracy, people are easier to control. That, and the fact that they live under the illusion that they are the ones in charge.TexanCounterRevolutionaryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00653018161206892898noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8783969302315257415.post-73952537253797474682013-03-14T18:21:41.023-05:002013-03-14T18:21:41.023-05:00On the other hand, Atheism is still strong in the ...On the other hand, Atheism is still strong in the Eastern European Nations once held in Communist Domination. While its true, you won't convert adults to a new position by mere force, you can educate their Children to think the way you want them to. In three or four Generations, Atheism became normativein theirthinking, as did the social policies of the USSR.<br /><br /><br />If, say, a Devout Christian Government overthrew France or the UK, the Secularists would still exist. But if this Government managed to endure for 100 years, the Children of the Secularists would grow up learning from a Christian perspective and likely that, along with its social values, would be ingrained.<br /><br /><br />I'm not saying the use of force is good nor am I saying that this is theonly factor, I'm, just noting how social values become individual values. That is one reason I never liked Democracy, as all too often people don't think for themselves and reason out what to believe, they simply follow the established customs and traditions of their society.ZAROVEhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17668854596329493360noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8783969302315257415.post-70020947383142360122013-03-13T10:05:34.867-05:002013-03-13T10:05:34.867-05:00I agree, but if one is not in Russia there is not ...I agree, but if one is not in Russia there is not much one can actively do about that. And even then, it does not provide a short-cut around the long, hard work of conversion. Spain, under Franco, was a very Catholic country just as England under Cromwell was a very Puritanical country (not that the two had anything in common) but that did not mean the people were truly converted and when the threat of force was removed we saw them each abandon these positions. People have to change their thinking, their values, their morals and that is something that cannot be imposed by force with a simple change of government or leadership. Every individual must take it upon himself to convince and convert others as well as refusing to just 'go with the flow'.MadMonarchisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08083008336883267870noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8783969302315257415.post-59734084146491273422013-03-13T09:59:13.837-05:002013-03-13T09:59:13.837-05:00But that is the point-there are only two options: ...But that is the point-there are only two options: to convince or to coerce. All we can do is try to convince since monarchists lack the numbers to win at the polls there is certainly little chance of having the strength to win by force. St Thomas More is an example, despite his immense disagreements with the King he was always loyal until he was forced to act against the law of God at which point he went to his death as 'the King's good servant, but God's first'. I would also remember the words of Pope Innocent XI upon the revocation of the Edict of Nantes, "Christ would not have done thus. Man must walk into the Temple of God, he cannot be dragged".MadMonarchisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08083008336883267870noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8783969302315257415.post-79409091410739574652013-03-12T23:02:24.298-05:002013-03-12T23:02:24.298-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04529110482038440419noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8783969302315257415.post-58411101036624575832013-03-12T22:29:16.765-05:002013-03-12T22:29:16.765-05:00Of course that i would never be a terrorist, any k... Of course that i would never be a terrorist, any kind violence against innocents is a heinous crime that deserves the worst punishment possible (please don't make me remember the horrible crimes that happened in the Vendee), I'm just very upset with the modern world, I will use all the lawful means that are in my power to help with the cause of the restoration of the monarchy and i will follow any monarch that raises the voice against modernity, i'm not a crazy skinhead (by god sake!), I am an intellectual. I like peace and harmony but if I was in the Vendee, in the Revolutionary War of my country or in the Russian Civil War i would have been among the first to enlist.<br /><br /> When i mentioned Roland and Charlemagne, I didn't said that i support such madness (not even in a million years, i don't think that Charlemagne would had actued like that). What i said was a metaphor meaning that any traditional king would be horrified with the current situation of the West and of monarchies. I expressed in the wrong way. <br /><br /> I know that is something I could never do, nobody can do it alone. But I still believe in a restoration of the monarchy by the designs of providence, I believe that the American, the French and Russian Revolutions were punishments sent to the West to for forsaking the right path, but I believe that this punishment will end soon.<br /><br /> In fact, I wan't to thank you for showing me the truth about the republics.<br /><br /> Thanks from Argentina.Argentinian Monarchisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03107723966145524623noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8783969302315257415.post-42680454971177807002013-03-12T22:18:18.998-05:002013-03-12T22:18:18.998-05:00While I wouldn't completely abandon today'...While I wouldn't completely abandon today's western, liberal monarchies, I think we monarchists do spend too many of our resources defending them against overwhelming republican force rather than doing a strategic "flank attack", so to speak: As the Liberal Hydra strengthens its grip in the west, it weakens in the Orthodox East. Seeing polls in even corruptly ruled Russia turning out with 20-25% support for the monarchy and an actual majority support in Serbia makes me think that we should use our resources to help there. A restoration in Russia, especially, would be of gigantic importance for monarchism, both geopolitically and symbolically: It would in many ways signal the final defeat of communism in its first homeland, and a massive rebuttal to the ideology of revolution.<br /> However, this probably cannot be accomplished through the democratic process. The authorities would just avoid any sort of referendum until monarchist feeling dies down. Instead, I see, in the case of Russia, two potential paths: Either a Bolshevik-style (in methods, NOT ideology) coup carried out by "professional counter-revolutionaries", or, in my view the best option: Getting Putin to support a Franco-style partial restoration with Putin as regent until his death or resignation, and then a full restoration of an absolute or semi-absolute Tsar. <br /><br />Sorry for the rant, I just wanted to point out that it simply doesn't make strategic sense to sit on the defensive and let the enemy overwhelm us through attrition, when we might be able to attack where they are weak and then have them surrounded.TexanCounterRevolutionaryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00653018161206892898noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8783969302315257415.post-56124457408134556682013-03-12T22:14:02.330-05:002013-03-12T22:14:02.330-05:00I will add that no one should feel under any press...I will add that no one should feel under any pressure to prove me right in this by acting in a hysterical fashion. Remember that there is nothing in this pledge that is not already law in the UK and most Commonwealth Realms, enacted into law in the Queen's name. Further, this is NOT a law, it cannot be enforced by anyone and it does not compel anyone to do anything against their conscience. I dislike it (aside from the content) specifically because I feared it would have the result of outraging those most inclined to support the monarchy.MadMonarchisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08083008336883267870noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8783969302315257415.post-13791053669173403332013-03-12T19:33:21.553-05:002013-03-12T19:33:21.553-05:00Then you are expecting monarchs to be even higher ...Then you are expecting monarchs to be even higher than God as you expect them to protect their own people from themselves. Even God does not do that, giving us the choice to choose right or wrong, life or death. If you want to go become a terrorist, killing in a one-man war you cannot win, I doubt any church would condone what you do.MadMonarchisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08083008336883267870noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8783969302315257415.post-61347027608422727432013-03-12T18:26:54.041-05:002013-03-12T18:26:54.041-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.Argentinian Monarchisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03107723966145524623noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8783969302315257415.post-79091937903220400942013-03-12T16:24:54.405-05:002013-03-12T16:24:54.405-05:00We could try to out-pessimist each other, but I fe...We could try to out-pessimist each other, but I fear such an activity would kill us both, haha.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8783969302315257415.post-44469559007613817202013-03-12T10:56:09.123-05:002013-03-12T10:56:09.123-05:00This is, of course, a massive own goal for the mon...This is, of course, a massive own goal for the monarchy. As you rightly point out, MM, the partisans of equality will *never* embrace the monarchy. The supporters of the monarchy, meanwhile, traditional conservatives (like me) will feel (not without justification) alienated and betrayed. 'Right wing' anti-monarchists will use this as ammo. Left-wingers will no more than delay their destruction of the monarchy slightly. There is no such thing as a little revolution. Give them an inch and they'll take a mile. The Queen should have played to Her supporters instead of Her sworn enemies.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8783969302315257415.post-82358809206646595292013-03-11T23:30:42.986-05:002013-03-11T23:30:42.986-05:00All true, though aside from the "equality&quo...All true, though aside from the "equality" nonsense, I put the forced acceptance of homosexuality right up there with abortion and birth control as symptoms of a society that simply does not want to survive, and perhaps even on a deep level, has come to believe it is hopelessly evil and wants to die out completely.MadMonarchisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08083008336883267870noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8783969302315257415.post-35372970050195498252013-03-11T23:28:36.832-05:002013-03-11T23:28:36.832-05:00Oh, I'm sure I'm more pessimistic than you...Oh, I'm sure I'm more pessimistic than you even on your worst day. But, being a Texan born within sight of the Alamo, I've just never connected being doomed with giving up. I've had people question me about it, why I do the things I do when I think western civilization is a lost cause at this point, they are confused by my answer and I'm confused by their question. You don't surrender for such a silly reason as being hopelessly outmatched. As if.MadMonarchisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08083008336883267870noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8783969302315257415.post-26356798378977008752013-03-11T21:21:59.106-05:002013-03-11T21:21:59.106-05:00I am not surprised by this. The support for Homose...I am not surprised by this. The support for Homosexuality is in fact rooted, as others have said, in the whole nonsense of Equality, and the end goal seems to be to make everythignthe same. This is why peopel advocared central planning to begin with.<br /><br />The reality is, if you don't suppot Homosexuality, you will be clasified as a Bigot, and in todays world, a Monarch who is a Bigot is nto an individual Monarch who is a Bigot, he or she is an arument for why Monarcghy itself is evil. The same logic is not appliesd to Republics. An anti-Hiomosexual President is simply a politician that must be replaced. an Anti-Homosexual king proves the whole institution of Monarchy is Evil.<br /><br /><br />We live in Tiems when peopel prefer depraviy, and call it good, and think Equlity is the abolition of Morality.<br /><br /><br />We say we live in a Secular world, where Relgiion plays no part. I disagree. I fidn modern Secularism to be a new Relgiion, and one beign forced on us all, even the Queen.<br /><br />ZAROVEhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17668854596329493360noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8783969302315257415.post-80304393469341913082013-03-11T16:28:23.558-05:002013-03-11T16:28:23.558-05:00I think she's just doing what she has to do. U...I think she's just doing what she has to do. Unfortunately, on issues like this, the side that supports traditional values has already lost. The dominant media/pop culture and the ruling political class have already set the agenda and it's becoming more and more useless to try to fight them. The Queen is a smart woman and over 60 years on multiple thrones has given her excellent survival instincts. I think she's doing what she feels she needs to do to maintain the integrity of her realms and the Commonwealth as a whole. We may not like it, she may not really like it herself, but it's basically a concession to political reality. Politics being the art of the possible and all that. It sucks, to be frank, but it's what comes with having a "modern" constitutional monarchy instead of a proper one in the first place. Robhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08368547834849724343noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8783969302315257415.post-19909723951852710432013-03-11T16:19:59.535-05:002013-03-11T16:19:59.535-05:00Was the Charter purposely drawn up with the homose...Was the Charter purposely drawn up with the homosexuals in mind? I see that it is not explicitly mentioned in the text, but I do not know if this is one of the things that "everyone knows" or if it is rather a media spin reading into it what they want to hear.Firmus et Rusticushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16029537490294717541noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8783969302315257415.post-43315599318189985502013-03-11T10:20:27.242-05:002013-03-11T10:20:27.242-05:00I think monarchists realize somewhere that countri...I think monarchists realize somewhere that countries like Britain are effectively parliamentary republics. The Queen despite her embodiment of tradition etc. serves no function greater than a powerless president. Keeping politicians away from the top job is useless if the top job is one that has no actual power, however much theoretical power it may hold. It's only a matter of time before Parliament (parliaments being universally the most insidious breeding grounds for the scum that the political class is) abolish the monarchy, assuming Britain hasn't utterly disintegrated by then, rendering the idea moot.<br />If the Queen or future Kings (Charles and William) are unwilling to take the risk of challenging the liberal and culturally destructive status quo (risk because we all know what happened to King Baudoin), then what option will the British people have but to consider them complicit in the death of their nation and culture, and turn against them in desperation?<br /><br />That's where European monarchies are heading I'm afraid, and the monarchs have done little to show that they do resist the tide (with notable exceptions in the smaller monarchies (Luxembourg/Liechtenstein/Monaco) where such noxious parliamentary structures do not exist - and it is parliaments that are and always have been the greatest enemies of both monarchs and the common people.<br />It's a wholly pessimistic view, but I'm afraid we'll be seeing more things like what Kentish Monarchist describes above.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8783969302315257415.post-37566967139141777682013-03-11T02:19:02.579-05:002013-03-11T02:19:02.579-05:00I've already noticed that in the article from ...I've already noticed that in the article from the Daily Mail, posts that usually get down-voted into oblivion ("Old free-loader" "Unelected parasite" "Old bat" and the like) are suddenly accumulating up-votes by the hundreds.<br /><br />Myself, I know where my loyalties lie. I'm on the fence about the whole thing, but I am and always will be HM's obedient subject.The Tory Geekhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00062997457619851630noreply@blogger.com