tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8783969302315257415.post7337947366829862629..comments2024-03-16T01:00:19.876-05:00Comments on The Mad Monarchist: Monarch Profile: King Umberto II of ItalyMadMonarchisthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08083008336883267870noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8783969302315257415.post-49370846776321746002016-03-14T05:29:08.306-05:002016-03-14T05:29:08.306-05:00His exile and ban from returning did seem pretty h...His exile and ban from returning did seem pretty harsh, since he stood down after a popular vote (even one that was fixed/questionable) and made no trouble.<br /><br />Constitutional monarchy seems to be by and large a good way to arrange democracy, it provides an element of stability more often than not.<br /><br />It certainly can't be any worse than presidential politics, of which Italy serves as textbook example of it's many weaknesses and failings.<br /><br />Well, what is done is done. I'd certainly be happy for Italy if it ever reinstituted the monarchy. <br />Certainly Mussolini's family shouldn't have gotten such leniency, or let off the hook. North-Britonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09793938718860277505noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8783969302315257415.post-26141467121041964542014-09-16T14:53:33.795-05:002014-09-16T14:53:33.795-05:00As King Umberto lived in Portugal, he may have vis...As King Umberto lived in Portugal, he may have visited a museum with a giant egg-shaped "Atlantian" stone. Indeed, there is speculation that Homer's Atlantis was "high water" Portugal land.<br />But my question would be,"Who would his heirs to the throne be,IF Royalists and the Mafia "redeemed Italy from the communists?"SageOFchappaquaNYhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13375115041656717585noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8783969302315257415.post-6273725190701060802014-08-28T11:53:16.019-05:002014-08-28T11:53:16.019-05:00I love my country and our proud history. I do hope...I love my country and our proud history. I do hope the best for house savoy and hope that they return as our ruling house. I despise what the republic has done to our country and I long for the monarchy that my ancestors bleed for to return. -a monarchist who was very happy to find your blogAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04443297933952508710noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8783969302315257415.post-51749411290780932682011-05-10T11:11:11.362-05:002011-05-10T11:11:11.362-05:00That is true (and I've given my own opinion of...That is true (and I've given my own opinion of unification) but, frankly, monarchists need to get over it. Some countries in Europe are in danger of breaking up but Italy doesn't seem to be one of them and I wouldn't want patriotic Italians to get the impression that monarchists want to destroy their country. I wasn't wild about the unification of Germany either, but after a certain point you have to accept reality and work with what you have.MadMonarchisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08083008336883267870noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8783969302315257415.post-39503613859789866902011-05-10T03:01:55.509-05:002011-05-10T03:01:55.509-05:00I agree that the treatment of Savoys has been gros...I agree that the treatment of Savoys has been grossly unfair in light of the fact that the Mussolini family are still politically active. But I also think the House of Savoy arouses mixed feelings even among monarchists, because of the way Unification had been achieved.<br /><br />The monarchist movement in Italy was strong enough that it elected MPs until the early 70s, and doubtless those with monarchist sympathies are lurking in mainstream politics. You also have supporters of the pre-Unification monarchs, and those families haven't had anything like the past and present controversies that the Savoys have.David Votoupalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10580606716887515975noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8783969302315257415.post-36157626907335400912011-05-10T01:56:32.854-05:002011-05-10T01:56:32.854-05:00I am agree; afterall we always a monarchist first ...I am agree; afterall we always a monarchist first then a royalistTANAKA8120https://www.blogger.com/profile/08169056478150976834noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8783969302315257415.post-19497837527408565622011-05-10T00:24:14.065-05:002011-05-10T00:24:14.065-05:00They havn't made it any easier on themselves, ...They havn't made it any easier on themselves, that is true, but monarchy has never been about individuals (though realistically of course no one can say it does not matter -just that it should not). However, you may be surprised, from what I have seen the Italian monarchists are more numerous than one might think and they are certainly active. Of course, as with any disputed succession (such as in France) there are problems with unity. There may not be enough at the moment to constitute a major force but I have been impressed by their tenacity and members of the Savoy dynasty have been involved with them (I won't go into any more than that because I don't want to take sides in the familial spat). The Royal Family has been featured in a number of high profile events this year particularly and Italian monarchists have been pretty good in covering the whole media spectrum to make their presence known from books, to videos to blogs. So, never say die! All we can do is take what we've got and carry on.MadMonarchisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08083008336883267870noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8783969302315257415.post-2790128879870452962011-05-09T22:56:45.419-05:002011-05-09T22:56:45.419-05:00The 1946 referendum ranks up there with the 1893 o...The 1946 referendum ranks up there with the 1893 overthrow of Queen Liliuokalani of Hawaii as one of the most embarrassing acts of US foreign policy. The whole vote was orchestrated and supervised by Allied occupation forces that helped in distributing republican propaganda. The Allies had and end goal in mind before the vote was even cast.<br /><br />As much as I would like to see the monarchy restored in my ancestral homeland, I find myself a bit conflicted in my feelings toward the current Prince of Naples. <br /><br />Even if it were somehow possible to set aside the Dirk Hammer killing, the alleged LCN ties, and the numerous public gaffes, the fact remains that he essentially usurped Umberto II's rightful authority by unilaterally proclaiming himself rightful king and head of the house in 1969, then going on to marry illegally. Taken together, it paints a pretty irreconcilable picture.<br /><br />Of course, it could be argued that Vittorio Emanuele is essentially a product of the republic and that had Umberto II not been overthrown, he would have been brought up quite differently, but he turned out the way he did and that's what we have to work with. I would say that the Duke of Aosta is a more palatable alternative, but it might be even better to just do what Franco did in Spain and skip a generation straight to Emanuele Filiberto. <br /><br />Its all moot anyway, Italy has one of the smallest and weakest monarchist movements in republican Europe, and the Savoys themselves have done very little to improve the situation.Robhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08368547834849724343noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8783969302315257415.post-79421565232588149262011-05-09T15:00:45.680-05:002011-05-09T15:00:45.680-05:00Thank you sir and keep up all of the good work you...Thank you sir and keep up all of the good work you are doing!MadMonarchisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08083008336883267870noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8783969302315257415.post-64735120079952314082011-05-09T05:31:54.244-05:002011-05-09T05:31:54.244-05:00Wonderful, my friend! Thank you very much!Wonderful, my friend! Thank you very much!Staff di Monarchici in Retehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10182380537301994954noreply@blogger.com