tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8783969302315257415.post7301597009553040348..comments2024-03-16T01:00:19.876-05:00Comments on The Mad Monarchist: Mad Rant: Why Are Monarchists Their Own Worst Enemy?MadMonarchisthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08083008336883267870noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8783969302315257415.post-20508421067127913482010-03-09T12:59:01.728-06:002010-03-09T12:59:01.728-06:00Excellent post; I fully agree and share your frust...Excellent post; I fully agree and share your frustrations.Theodore Harveyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16242452485576182841noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8783969302315257415.post-3551276357185565132010-03-09T11:47:44.560-06:002010-03-09T11:47:44.560-06:00Monarchists are indeed divided. But I think LAWW W...Monarchists are indeed divided. But I think LAWW Wells agrees with my perspective on it. I don’t think the Divides are as great as all that, just greater looking off the old Internet.<br /><br />But it does highlight a problem. W have no advocacy groups, no Governmental Lobbyists, and no one in Academia outside of a few like Hoppe who really makes headway for us.<br /><br />As it is nowadays, our greatest problem is a lack of any sort of cohesive Strategy to re-establish the Legitimacy of our claims in the minds of the masses, and by so winning back the day.<br /><br />Most Monarchists just Grumble, and I think that perhaps we need to be more united in a common cause of re-establishment of the Natural rder. In order to accomplish this, I think we need to really focus on the end goal. Any Monarchy existent today should be supported, people should be re-educate don their value, they should be given real power, and people should be taught to respect that. (Well, Politicians should.)<br /><br />As with the Churches, who bemoan Modern Secularism, the greatest problem is our lack of Dedication and Discipline.<br /><br />But that’s just my take, and I don’t mean individuals.ZAROVEhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17668854596329493360noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8783969302315257415.post-55289398464975706642010-03-08T22:51:59.749-06:002010-03-08T22:51:59.749-06:00lol that's a good one, I'll have to try to...lol that's a good one, I'll have to try to remember that!MadMonarchisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08083008336883267870noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8783969302315257415.post-2994423572590149762010-03-08T22:44:32.780-06:002010-03-08T22:44:32.780-06:00Since the comment was on Youtube, I wouldn't w...Since the comment was on Youtube, I wouldn't worry. You've always got silly twits trolling there. Best policy is just to ignore them.<br /><br />I'd think it would be a safe bet to say that legitimist splits occur if the throne of a country has changed hands in the last 350 or so years (so that takes in the British, French, Spanish, Portuguese, Swedish and Dutch thrones, as well as the unified nations of Germany and Italy). There are also splits in the Romanovs based on marriages being non-morganatic.<br /><br />Understand though, that those who would, as that "monarchist" does, replace an incumbent Royal House with another one, are very much in the minority. With the internet, they gain a voice. But there is no real desire to change out incumbent royal families (when legitimist splits are observed) amongst the majority of monarchists. Best you can do is just face palm and ignore it (never argue with an idiot - they'll drag you down to their level and beat you with experiance :p).Professor Lhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00659779116600213901noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8783969302315257415.post-12589181590692416682010-03-08T13:55:28.067-06:002010-03-08T13:55:28.067-06:00Yes and in the interim I had another comment from ...Yes and in the interim I had another comment from someone who claimed to despise republicanism and yet would prefer a Republic of Britain to a British monarchy under the Windsors. If you let these things get out of control *nothing* will ever be accomplished. Just limited to those monarchies still around, the only ones I can say I have never heard thier "legitimacy" questioned are Denmark, Luxembourg, Monaco and Liechtenstein -that's it. Very frustrating.<br /><br />If anyone claims to be a monarchist and yet supports virtually none of the monarchies that actually exist in the world, that really makes said person a "theoretical monarchist" which doesn't move us down the road at all.MadMonarchisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08083008336883267870noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8783969302315257415.post-80167738897846616802010-03-08T11:06:47.476-06:002010-03-08T11:06:47.476-06:00This one is a very lucid, admirable text, MM.
But...This one is a very lucid, admirable text, MM.<br /><br />But, as LAW Wells mentioned, there are very legitimist splits.<br /><br />Lets look at the portuguese monarchy case:<br />The actual heir to the throne to the portuguese throne, or at least, the one who is favoured by the greater part of the country, is of the Legitimist bloodline, he descends from an overthrown king, accused of absolutism, D. Miguel I.<br /><br />However, there is one family that claims they descend upon one of the constitutionalis kings, wich came before the exiled king, Dom Miguel I.<br /><br />This leaves us in a very dire situation...Manuel Marques Pinto de Rezendehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18265528253922767869noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8783969302315257415.post-12828199223407742562010-03-08T02:32:07.088-06:002010-03-08T02:32:07.088-06:00Republicans are united by oen thing and en hting o...Republicans are united by oen thing and en hting only- Hatred. I'll be back later to respnd in full, this article has me thinking I need to collect my thoghts before I think I can post. Do I think too much?ZAROVEhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17668854596329493360noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8783969302315257415.post-67611575410235764962010-03-08T01:54:39.915-06:002010-03-08T01:54:39.915-06:00Probably because they are the ideological sort but...Probably because they are the ideological sort but it does seem the republican swine have a better record of sticking together even when they dislike each other. The US and Mexico were not good friends but they still supported Juarez against Emperor Maximilian, Soviet Russia and Red China hated each other but the Soviets still covered China with their nukes until they got their own. <br /><br />Thanks for the link on Italy, that is interesting and I do have a soft spot for the old Kingdom of the Two-Sicilies. They are still very much in the minority but I admire how many down there are still faithful to the House of Bourbon. Though, in context of the above rant, I would point out that loyal as they were to the Bourbons during the time of the referenedum most still had enough sense to vote for Umberto II over the republic. Too bad the results were announced before all their votes had even been counted (!).<br /><br />I was annoyed by the complaint of not giving the British enough 'face time' (this was on YouTube) in one video clip considering I've done 25 vids solely on the British & Commonwealth monarchy -considerably more than any other country. And one of my ancestors lost the family fortune fighting for the King in the English Civil War. So, seemed like an odd thing for this guy to get his nickers in a wad over instead of just being grateful not quite everyone around here is a British royal-hating republican zombie.MadMonarchisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08083008336883267870noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8783969302315257415.post-61089301179291019002010-03-08T01:25:20.684-06:002010-03-08T01:25:20.684-06:00The problems you highlight are generally shared by...The problems you highlight are generally shared by republicans - executive or ceremonial presidencies, direct or parliamentary election, etc. It's an easy wedge when defending.<br /><br />When attempting restorations however, there certainly are plenty of problems with these legitimist splits. Don't mind those who still support the House of Stuart. The House has long renounced its claim to the British throne. This Catholic doesn't mind bending his knee to the Matriarch of the House of Windsor, not to mention it doesn't matter since the Crown is quite secure.<br /><br />Unfortunately, with the restoration attempts (especially in France and Russia), there are a lot of legitimist splits (as you have said). Really, one has to accept that no restoration will return us to the pre-1789 situation. Not immediately. These things will take time. But people have often invested so much time in researching the situation and developing a preference towards one or another House that they can't let that go.<br /><br />Just as a little bit on Italy, here's a link that might interest you (http://www.ansa.it/web/notizie/rubriche/english/2009/12/08/visualizza_new.html_1644338547.html).<br /><br />As for the little swipe at you for not being "British" enough, its probably just a bit of British snobbery. They think they're the best in world, after all (they're not. We Aussies are :p).<br /><br />Still, Rule Britannia!Professor Lhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00659779116600213901noreply@blogger.com