tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8783969302315257415.post6333644116775272455..comments2024-03-16T01:00:19.876-05:00Comments on The Mad Monarchist: Royal Profile: Archduke Franz Ferdinand of AustriaMadMonarchisthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08083008336883267870noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8783969302315257415.post-9739504687043038202019-01-17T00:51:25.513-06:002019-01-17T00:51:25.513-06:00Archduke Murder Franz Ferdinand because the Serbs ...Archduke Murder Franz Ferdinand because the Serbs wanted independence from Austria-Hungary.BELAJAR BAHASAhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16239931363114170527noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8783969302315257415.post-87396556692437873532012-07-26T11:37:29.082-05:002012-07-26T11:37:29.082-05:00Although I can agree with most of the facts you ha...Although I can agree with most of the facts you have laid out in your article on Archduke Franz Ferdinand, I would like to contribute some historical facts from the Serbian point of view on Serbian-Austrian (and later Austro-Hungarian) relations from 1815 to 1914. Serbia achieved its autonomy as a principality within the Ottoman Turkish Empire in 1815 (356 years after its loss of independence to the Ottomans); it had not achieved full independence as Greece had in 1823 due to the vociferous objections of Great Britain, France and Austria, the last country viewing Serbia as a threat and a possible focal point for its Serbian subjects in the Military Frontier, Dalmatia, Slavonia and Southern Hungary (present-day Northern Serbia).<br /><br />The Congress of Berlin in 1878 granted both Serbian states (Serbia and Montenegro) independence as well as expanded territories. However, Austria-Hungary also gained a mandate over Bosnia-Herzegovina, which was still Turkish territory but was inhabited by Serbians of all three confessions (Orthodox, Roman Catholic, Muslim). Austria-Hungary also tried to gain a mandate over the Sanjak of Novi Pazar as a means of driving a wedge between Serbia and Montenegro, eager to stop any attempts of unity between these two Serbian states. When Austria-Hungary finally decided to annex Bosnia-Herzegovina in 1908, it was against the will of the Serbian people in Bosnia, as they were for unification with the Kingdom of Serbia.<br /><br />Franz Ferdinand's murder in Sarajevo on the 28th June 1918 was indeed a terrorist act, what is more, the Serbian government relayed intelligence to the Austrian court of a plot to assassinate the Archduke, which they purposefully disregarded, as he was a highly unpopular man and his death would serve as a convenient casus belli for a "punitive" expedition against Serbia. However, it is a mistake to describe his murder as a "Serbian" terrorist act, since Princip himself had stated during his trial that his goal in murdering the Archduke was not the establishment of a "Greater Serbian" state, but a Yugoslav one (which ultimately happened). The terrorist organization he belonged to was the "Black Hand", whose head was the notorious Colonel Dragutin Dimitrijevic-Apis, the same person who was ringleader to a clique of officers who murdered King Alexander Obrenovic and his wife on the 29th May 1903.<br /><br />The very concept of "Greater Serbia" did not come from Serbia, but was concocted by the Austrian government as a convenient excuse to harass its southern neighbor, i.e. it served as an excellent foil to its own expansionist policy towards Serbia. Serbia's only goal had been to unite all lands which had a distinctly Serbian majority, no more no less. The bogey of a "Greater Serbia" was later used by the Yugoslav communists in repressing all monarchical and national sentiment among its Serb populace in Yugoslavia, where it was viewed as politically incorrect to deem oneself a Serb, much less a monarchist.<br /><br />If my tirade has been a little tiresome and long-winded, it has only been with the purpose of clearing up some historical lies which have haunted and still haunt the Serbian people. As a final word, I am a staunch monarchist and work towards a return of the Serbian monarchy, which is gaining increasing support among the populace in my country.<br /><br />Sincerely,<br /><br />David of RasciaDavid of Rasciahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06251614500053041330noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8783969302315257415.post-21296815831449430742012-04-27T23:32:23.764-05:002012-04-27T23:32:23.764-05:00The system in place could have worked, dualism, fe...The system in place could have worked, dualism, federalism, trialism etc all could have worked provided that good will exists; those in authority do their duty and the people are loyal and law-abiding. I've yet to find a perfect formula with a system that would prevent a country from falling apart no matter what influences were at work on the public.<br /><br />If the existing system is rejected (the prior model of the Austrian Empire rejected as well) and any level of federalism is rejected because Hungary would never abide it (not an unreasonable assumption) then, well, it seems like you're just stuck. If centralism nor federalism can work, I don't what other alternative there could be.MadMonarchisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08083008336883267870noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8783969302315257415.post-50144181498325346042012-04-27T20:50:33.118-05:002012-04-27T20:50:33.118-05:00Mad Monarchist, how would one try to reform Austri...Mad Monarchist, how would one try to reform Austria-Hungary today through means other than federalism or trialism? If I recall, Charles I favored the former, yet, as Petya said, federalism would've ruined the Emperor's power and caused the Hungarians to rebel in self-defense. And as for trialism under Austria-Hungary-Bohemia, one should keep in mind that Bohemia is located on the northwestern part of the empire (far from the Southern Slavs who were causing much of the trouble), and even then the Kingdom as a whole was a very small area in the first place.<br /><br />For a long time I decided that quadrilism under Austria-Hungary-Bohemia-Croatia was the best solution; Croatia would've acted as the South Slav kingdom. But a few days ago, I decided to reject that notion due to the fact that Hungary would've, once again, rebelled against even an inch of their [rightful] land being taken.<br /><br />Currently, I'm thinking of a combination of Bohemian trialism, the federalization proposal applying only to the Austrian part of the empire (including Slovenia, Trieste, Galicia, etc), and an imperial decree stating that Hungary would have to acknowledge her minorities and stop persecution and Magyarization attempts. Then again, though, we all know what happened to a few Transylvanians when they tried the latter.yoshigreen22https://www.blogger.com/profile/12915434814340906416noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8783969302315257415.post-84099116190256864622011-06-27T12:34:25.044-05:002011-06-27T12:34:25.044-05:00He was an pacifist that wanted an Europe at peace ...He was an pacifist that wanted an Europe at peace without rivality between the great power, but it pains me to say that his plans where impossible to acomplish due to the european situation and (as Peyta said) his internals plans for a federal Austria-Hungary would have destroyed the Empire making it to fall into terryble civil war. He was an great person but he was utopic. <br /><br /> I think that an Trialism (Austria Hungary and Bohemia) would have been the best solution.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8783969302315257415.post-72798738908249038382011-06-27T10:30:39.348-05:002011-06-27T10:30:39.348-05:00A great analysis on the assasination and on its ba...A great analysis on the assasination and on its background. You have truly connected the dots.<br /><br />The plans of the Archduke are also well stated. However, we must add that those reforms would've been catastrophic to Hungary. The whole method would've been revolutionary and nationalistic, would've destroyed the county-system of the Kingdom of Hungary and would've left the Empire impotent. So we were lucky to have Karl IV. as our last king, not the Archduke. <br /><br />Also, don't forget that the Archduke harboured utter hatred towards the Hungarians while Karl IV. said that "there are no better people on Earth than Hungarians."<br /><br />So for the reasons above I'm reluctant to accept him as a positive person in the history of the Habsburg Empire.Petrus Augustinushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03296159071531531990noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8783969302315257415.post-62141319166395818942011-06-27T10:04:33.568-05:002011-06-27T10:04:33.568-05:00Yes, and some certainly do. I have noticed recentl...Yes, and some certainly do. I have noticed recently that some are again trying to argue that 'lone gunmen' were responsible which I thinnk could be discounted simply by the fact that Serbia was one country which got pretty much everything it had wanted out of the war and which could have got none of it without the war. That doesn't mean the people were guilty or even the King nor were any in Serbia responsible for the war spreading but the Black Hand certainly had supporters in the government and they were initiating the events that served their own interests.<br /><br />Oddly enough, of the big-3 central powers, German, Austria Hungary and Ottoman Turkey it was the most "modern" -Germany- which was the only one that was not in the middle of major reforms or planning for them in the near future.MadMonarchisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08083008336883267870noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8783969302315257415.post-7414566478288693472011-06-27T06:10:02.475-05:002011-06-27T06:10:02.475-05:00It's amazing how demonized the victims of Mode...It's amazing how demonized the victims of Modernism have been, especially those who would have or in some cases *did* reform past errors. That's true evidence of a conspiracy even if one ardently wanted to credit Lone Gunmen for those deaths to begin with.Jacobitesshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03723557335968316270noreply@blogger.com