tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8783969302315257415.post3352920108066169761..comments2024-03-16T01:00:19.876-05:00Comments on The Mad Monarchist: Monarch Profile: King Charles I of BritainMadMonarchisthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08083008336883267870noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8783969302315257415.post-82409113246319755082016-07-14T13:25:42.371-05:002016-07-14T13:25:42.371-05:00> Do any of you know that Diana Spencer is desc...> Do any of you know that Diana Spencer is descended from H.M. King Charles II?<br /><br />Twice, in fact.TroddinRazorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14481188107027528564noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8783969302315257415.post-33611829739668419802015-03-20T13:10:35.656-05:002015-03-20T13:10:35.656-05:00One of them, I think, is George III who often gets...One of them, I think, is George III who often gets a very bad rap these days. He wasn't a brutal tyrannical figure, but a man fond of frugality, sobriety, technology and application of knowledge. <br /><br />His great sin in the revolutionary mind was to try and reverse the trend of having a Prime Minister, to try and make the monarchy into a more executive role again. But that of course, was something neither Parliament nor the people could forgive easily. In regards to Parliament, he too tried to be both tough and nice but it didn't work out for him, as we all know.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01213961089630422298noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8783969302315257415.post-46533404412911489412015-03-17T20:34:37.693-05:002015-03-17T20:34:37.693-05:00Do any of you know that Diana Spencer is descended...Do any of you know that Diana Spencer is descended from H.M. King Charles II?Teo Wei Pinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09980353390013234644noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8783969302315257415.post-54446784694018194572013-01-25T17:42:29.823-06:002013-01-25T17:42:29.823-06:00Nice overview of the English Civil War. Keep up th...Nice overview of the English Civil War. Keep up the good work :)Nickuruhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08874335943208548698noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8783969302315257415.post-51791877496202403442010-07-25T04:13:15.899-05:002010-07-25T04:13:15.899-05:00Louis the 16th Certainly deserves to be a Saint, b...Louis the 16th Certainly deserves to be a Saint, but I fear ewith so much contempt for Monarchy in France and the prevailing Seculaism that comes along with it, this will not happen.ZAROVEhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17668854596329493360noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8783969302315257415.post-6379404053526549412010-07-24T03:34:48.232-05:002010-07-24T03:34:48.232-05:00Though he gets little credit for it, I tend to pla...Though he gets little credit for it, I tend to place Tsar Nicholas I in that category. He was, by all accounts, a very warm and devoted family man, sincerely religious but not a man you wanted to mess with. He was tough, he was hard when he needed to be. I think it is telling that Nicholas II and Britain's Charles I are saints in their national churches (and there was an effort to have the same done for poor Louis XVI) and the qualities of saintliness are not always the qualities of a successful monarch in hard times. It reminds me of Pope St Celestine V (I think) who reigned at a time when one had to have pretty sharp elbows for the rough world of Italian politics. Celestine V was a saintly man, his soul was pure as the driven snow, but he was not the greatest Pope on the political side of things because of that and finally abdicated. I have always maintained, probably for emotional reasons, that one good man is enough, but all too often the generous and compassionate are more likely to be taken advantage of by dishonest and unscrupulous individuals.MadMonarchisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08083008336883267870noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8783969302315257415.post-17012952800171396342010-07-24T02:06:33.638-05:002010-07-24T02:06:33.638-05:00I think the problem is when rulers try to be both ...I think the problem is when rulers try to be both "tough" and "nice". Standing firm on principle enough to make enemies, but not backing up their stand with sufficient force, they fall between two stools. Tragically, our favorite monarchs(often very appealing precisely because of their combination of nobility and gentleness) are often of this sort.Mayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18230268418171628594noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8783969302315257415.post-78338869970028343892010-07-23T16:03:38.745-05:002010-07-23T16:03:38.745-05:00The whole Jacobite episode does, in a way, start w...The whole Jacobite episode does, in a way, start with Charles I because, though the monarchy was restored, the Roundheads never saw themselves as defeated and so they were still a big problem for Charles II, tried to take control of the succession, were not successful then but were finally with James II. It was this whole era, starting with Charles I, that determined whether the Crown would be left to God or Parliament to work out.<br /><br />Elisa, I did do a consort profile on Queen Henrietta Maria if you care to look her up. I was also very impressed with Alec Guiness's performance, a good man and a good actor in any event and the best part of that movie.MadMonarchisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08083008336883267870noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8783969302315257415.post-91348968239758365732010-07-23T15:36:23.778-05:002010-07-23T15:36:23.778-05:00I have a particular, and understandable, connectio...I have a particular, and understandable, connection to these events. As I said I am descended from James the Sixth of Scotland and Firts of England. I am also descended from Charles the First. But in addition, I think this is the start of the whole mess we're in now. John Locke's Philosophy psurred the change in thinking from the Older Order of Monarhcy towards a Republic in his two Treietises on Government, but would never have been promenant as a Thinker in Politics with such Ideas had he not been made so under Cromwell's Republic of England.<br /><br />The Republican Ideal, and Parlamentary Supremacy, spawned all sorts of additional Political Writtings advocating very similar Views, and Locke's work became Standard, and was cited the most after the Bible by Americas Founding Fathers, for example. It also inpsired Reussau, VOltaire, and Montesque. All of there work grew formt he Seed planted by Locke.<br /><br />So I see this as the beginning of the Rise of Republicanism. <br /><br />Though as you noted elsewhere, Elizabeth the FIrts executing Mary certainly didn't help.<br /><br />So even though from England grew the perfection of Monarhcy, from England also grew the seeds of its overthrow and replacement by Republican Rule, and not only wudl British lands such as the American Colonies suffer as a Result, but Neighbouring Franc and then the world.ZAROVEhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17668854596329493360noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8783969302315257415.post-73215906245340543332010-07-23T09:39:34.639-05:002010-07-23T09:39:34.639-05:00Thanks for an interesting post!
My adopted homesta...Thanks for an interesting post!<br />My adopted homestate, Maryland, is named in honor of Henrietta Maria. :)<br />I enjoyed the late Sir Alec Guiness's performance as Charles I in the movie "Cromwell" in high school.Elisanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8783969302315257415.post-43190387916658261572010-07-23T08:27:08.787-05:002010-07-23T08:27:08.787-05:00In response to your question, His Majesty would cr...In response to your question, His Majesty would cringing in horror. Consider that the Prime Minister recommends which priests are to go where (which leads to the rather odd situation of an Anglican Bishop claiming not to believe in the Ressurrection. Quite a Christian he is). Consider that the Commons now rules unopposed by any other instrument (the Lords had their veto abolished around 1911, and the Crown virtually lost its veto with the Civil War, though it does retain it in theory).<br /><br />In large part, that is why I identify as a Jacobite. I can hardly deny the reasoning behind consultation in matters of state, and representatives of the people in general (so not just the Lords) need to be given a forum in which to debate matters of importance. But I see now what democracy untrammelled reaps, and I look at it with quite some horror.<br /><br />Give me a strong Crown and a strong Lords, and I will guarantee, glory and power will follow. It's no accident that Britain went into terminal decline when the Lords lost its veto.Professor Lhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00659779116600213901noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8783969302315257415.post-42062229492934052972010-07-23T04:23:24.556-05:002010-07-23T04:23:24.556-05:00I've said it many times before; nice guys fini...I've said it many times before; nice guys finish last. Hitler said he would have shot Gandhi and could not understand why Britain was so troubled by him. Even amongst the ranks of monarchs, King Louis XIV or the "Iron Tsar" Nicholas I would never have gone so quietly into that dark night as their successors did. Charles did fight but had a hard time fighting to win -he cared too much. On the other side, Cromwell clearly had no qualms about killing any who dared oppose him -ask the Irish.<br /><br />You will also notice that all of these men tried to be reasonable with their enemies and gave in to one set of demands after another but it was never enough and that is why it should be clear to everyone that revolutionaries cannot be reasoned with. As for King Jamie, I have no immediate plans but I certainly will get to him at some point.MadMonarchisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08083008336883267870noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8783969302315257415.post-90200038488674430412010-07-23T03:37:33.495-05:002010-07-23T03:37:33.495-05:00It should be noted that Charles is the ONLY Saint ...It should be noted that Charles is the ONLY Saint Designated by the Anglican Church. That said, I think you hit on something when you said it seems good Kings are those who are Killed by Revolutionaries. This is because, despite all the talk of how Tyrannical and Horrible they were, they allowed the Rebellious Elements too much Latitude and when conflict broke out sought peace. A true Tyrant is seldom opposed, for popel either Fear his might, knowign he will crush you if you try, or else Praise him endlessly for reasons I have yet to understand. (Hitler, Stalin, and even Chavez all have this to their names, they were neverendingly praised, even by those not coerced or otherwise compelled.)<br /><br /><br />It seems the lesson is to be sort of Cruel if ever you are King, else, to show Gentility, you are seen as a Tyrant and Murdered.<br /><br />On that note, I wonder if you can do a peice on my Ancestor, King James Stuart, the Father of Charles.ZAROVEhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17668854596329493360noreply@blogger.com